Settlement of Claims through SAB Pension Scheme

Settlement of Claims through SAB Pension Scheme

Even though late, the changes of AIGETOA as Recognised Representative Executive Association is visible on each and every front. On Continuous persuasion and various efforts , finally the SAB pension settlement started to run for the eligible employees. Click here for the list circulated to circles on the same. The dues of SAB contribution affected the lower emoluments. if the Scheme got started as per Clause 23 Rule-37A from date of joining of each BSNL recruit employee, at the time BSNL was in profit conditions the contribution and emoluments would have been different. Anyway AIGETOA believe practical results and once the same started rolling, further improvements and additions are possible. We thank our respected CMD, Dir HR and entire management for starting the same as committed in various meetings with AIGETOA.

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AIGETOA meeting with CMD BSNL on 11.02.2022

Team AIGETOA comprising of Shri Ravi Shil Verma AIP, Shri Wasi Ahmad GS and Shri Badri Kumar Mehta VP met CMD BSNL on 11.02.2022. We invited CMD BSNL for the upcoming event of All India Conference at Bhopal and requested to grace the occasion as Chief Guest in the Open Session to be held on 13th March, 2022.

We also had discussions on career progression issues with CMD BSNL and he has shown his positivity towards ensuring proper career progression and creating polices for taking in house talent to the highest levels in BSNL. In this direction, he assured that thorough discussions shall be held with AIGETOA on our inputs and aspirations while modifying the MSRRs and he also assured to create a pathway for internal executives to reach the highest echelons of the management. It is a major change in thought process of the management when they have shifted their focus from external recruitment to giving proper avenues to deserving internal pool for higher posts. On Promotions in AGM and DGM Cadres, he informed that DoP&T has sought certain inputs from BSNL and it seems DoP&T is also keen to end the stalemate at the earliest. It seems that we can expect firm and positive momentum from DoP&T after the next hearing at Hon’ble Supreme Court in 24th February. In the meantime, Circle Secretaries are requested to ensure uploading of APAR grading for all eligible SDEs at the earliest.

We also held discussion on the ongoing support of the government to BSNL for the second revival package, 4G roll out, transmission backbone strengthening and CAPEX infusion. The process is moving in very positive direction and government is seen positive for sustainability and positive trajectory for BSNL. The announcement made by Hon’ble Finance Minister has to be rolled out and it is expected to be the major booster for BSNL in coming days.

The Team also met other Directors of BSNL Board and invited them to our All India conference at Bhopal and they assured positively. Thereafter we had detailed meeting with PGM Pers where discussions were held on various issues including the SDE RR, OTP, SDE Transfer on Promotion Cases and Inspection Circle issue. It was agreed that the inputs of the association will be judged on merit and thorough discussions shall be held with association on the issues of contention.  For other issues also the PGM Pers assured to look into the concern raised by the association and assured to address as per the provisions of defined rule.

Friends, we need to keep our focus on the current progress and specially the RR part as our future is being rewritten and no point should be let loose. We also request all to not to get demoralized or demotivated by the vicious campaign by the lie master and one of the proclaimed legacy association of BSNL. He may only know the reasons! Why he is indulging into such mischievous campaigns when his focus should have been on the new RRs which are being rewritten. We all know how the best talents were recruited by BSNL as JTO/JAO Grades and how these proclaimed corners left no stone unturned to ruin the careers of all the Executives in last 20 years in their era. Now after devastating everything like Pay, Promotion and Pension of the Employees recruited by BSNL, they are giving sermon to AIGETOA. Whether 20 years were not sufficient to the so called mighty association that now they are doing Karun Krandan. From their utterances on their lie machine, it is very clear that the heart of these proclaimed corners are burning by seeing the BSNL Recruited youngsters and other executives on the path of growth.  So now all they are is to tell lies and indulge into mischievous information campaign to mislead all executives. Anyways, AIGETOA is committed to ensure that all executives get their long awaited dues in all respect.

We observed some new allegations from the lie machine of the Lie Master-

Before we delve deep into their allegations, the first which we want to make them remember is – Till August 2020, SNEA was the recognised Association – Till November 2016, occupying the recognition illegally by virtue of being legacy association from DoT, From December 2016 to November 2019 as recognised Association, then from DECEMBER 2019 to AUGUST 2020- again illegitimately occupying the recognised Tag through manipulation in the name of VRS. Thereafter they were thrown out by Public.

Now let’s come to Promotions Part-

Shameless.. isn’t it.. the proclaimed SENA of BSNL.. all these while they were in chair till 2020 and are blaming AIGETOA for their failures.. spineless as they can’t own even their failures.. and successes, they can’t enumerate because it always came at the cost of Youngsters, Competitive Quota people and thereafter BSNL Recruits.

Status from 2011 till February 2015 in JTO to SDE DPC – Only Directions from court was that prepare the list on the basis of 1:1 and remove the discrepancies and supernumerary candidates from the list and execute the promotions. But that was not acceptable to these legacy masters ..They never submitted the list and finally in February 2015 , taking strong cognizance to such blatant defiance of Directions, Hon’ble CAT granted stay. So the only cause for non promotion was the hatred of the proclaimed corners against the promotions of BSNL Recruits.

And honestly speaking, we are grateful to SNEA that they didn’t claimed that battle of Panipat was won by them.

May be that they may not be knowing the count before 1990. Any how it’s their look out, how they learn counting.

As far as the sincere efforts are concerned, all the promotions which they are counting are for their own peers and whenever it came to BSNL Recruits or competitive quota, they always ditched.

Proof In JTO to SDE Promotions of June 2018, even the ST quota was not allowed to be executed by them because all were BSNL Recruits. File which was moved for promotions of remaining List 8 candidates in AGM Cadre was scuttled by the proclaimed legacy corners by going to management and showing the fear of giving one extra increments to these List 8 Executives.. and even in List 8, promotion was stopped where competitive quota and BSNL Recruits started. So their so called love for BSNL Recruits and Competitive Quota People is proved beyond doubt and visible to all.

And isn’t it the shameless show of their weakness – While they could manage the promotions of their peers even by doing Contempt (At Ernakulam in case of JTO to SDE and At Chandigarh for SDE to AGM). And they became so weak in case of promotions to BSNL Recruits and Competitive Quota People that they left everything on the responsibility of AIGETOA.

Any Sane person can neither believe this nor can write this.. but being insane has become a trademark now of the lie master and his followers.

As far as sincerity of AIGETOA is concerned, still they tried to arrange an amicable solution in 2017 and called all the petitioners before management. Even the petitioners gave their undertaking for no objection if all BSNL Recruits are covered as sufficient vacancies were there but again the lie master was at his notorious best. With the help of their cronies in HR, they derailed that exercise also else all who got promoted now would have got promoted in 2017 itself.

However SNEA forgot to tell why ST quota was not executed in DPC in 2018 promotion of JTO to SDE.. and why only half of the list 8 was covered in AGM promotions.. only one reason – Both Contained BSNL Recruits and Competitive Quota people.

SNEA also forgot to tell us – Why they worked against Vacancy Year based Seniority and pushed competitive quota people from list 9 to list 12 and 13 leading to a huge loss for LDCE 2012 candidates.

SNEA also forgot to tell us how they got LDCE stayed from Chandigarh and Guwahati and they never impleaded in a case which was for the benefit of BSNL Recruits and Competitive Quota people – None for Pay Scales, None for SAB, None for Promotions.

Why SNEA always impleaded in the cases which were against the benefit of BSNL Recruits and Competitive Quota people – JTO RR, SDE RR, SDE Seniority, 147 group.

When AIGETOA came in majority, promotions were visible and what the proclaimed corners did, they again derailed the exercise by getting stay from Jabalpur. When that stay got vacated, they tried to get stay from Chandigarh (All these documents are in public domain where they sought stoppage of all promotions in court). Even that was not sufficient then they made complaint to various corners and cited promotion as well as AIEL 2 and AIEL 3 as illegal.

Still since AIGETOA was in the helm of the affairs, instead of crying, we searched for solutions and got successful in executing the promotions.

End Result is visible to all-

Today promotions happened in all streams and even LICE 2013 JTOs are SDE today..it’s only because AIGETOA stands for all.

But the cry mongers are still not happy. Their webupdates itself are open proof of their hatred against BRs and competitive quota people… It always looked like some sad news update when BRs got Promoted Don’t worry, we will make u further cry by getting further promotions executed in all grades as well as streams very soon.

And for the short lived memories of the lie master and his followers we want to remind them-

Reservation complexity still not resolved

Contempt Case still on

But promotions happened and are happening because AIGETOA concentrated on promotións not like you who worked for few groups leaving BRs and competitive quota in lurch.

And by blaming AIGETOA for scuttling CPSU CH despite the fact that all these 20 years, SNEA was in majority, they are openly admitting their lack of sincerity towards a particular group because promotions were stopped for a particular group only and you got the promotions of your peers and contemporaries despite contempt and stay.

How much more you will get down dear proclaimed corner of BSNL, how much more.

And perhaps your blind eyes and dumb brain is unable to read the updates of AIGETOA properly. Very soon LDCE will also be announced and further DPC will also happen so that our SRD Batch, LICE 2014 Batch, LICE 2016 Batch and GATE JTOs of 2017 batch will also be promoted to SDE Cadre and which will open path for more and more JEs to be promoted to JTO cadre and aspire high. We will also ensure promotions in AGM Cadre for all streams very soon. Very soon, all JAOs will also get chance to be promoted to AO cadre.

We are not like You. AIGETOA is for all and will achieve everything together for all.

And as far as your future updates are concerned, all we can say is that:

AIGETOA Focus is on all and hence all will grow

Since your focus is on nonsense, for you .. only nonsense will grow.

Waiting for another fairy tell from the Lie Machine of the Lie Master.

Sincerely Yours

We the AIGETOAans…We the BSNL Recruits…We the competitive quota People

Utterances of SNEA in their website

We observed some utterances of SNEA in their website.

So far, they have made many allegations against AIGETOA… Let’s go one by one !!!

  1. Worked very hard to scuttle the Time Bound Promotion Policy which ensures functional promotion after every 5 years. They scuttled it because it was negotiated by SNEA. The biggest beneficiaries are BSNL Rects. So, the so called BR saviors backstabbed the BRs – As the then MA they should be ashamed that they surrendered before AIGETOA… and this is ridiculous that the so called mighty association is today blaming others for their failures.
  1. AIGETOA worked very hard and made the SDE stagnation period as 12 years from 5 years. Their silence on the issue speaks volumes – The comments are on a draft.. premature assumptions by SNEA has become an habit which speaks volumes about their hurry in concluding things… In fact they are forgetting that Residency Period has once again become 3 years instead of 5 years by them.
  1. In 2007, AIGETOA opposed LDCE promotion demanding direct promotion from JTO to DE/AGM, equating with ITS Officers, instead of JTO to SDE promotion (that was their CPSU CH proposal of 2007) – And SNEA conspired to derail this ..they are calling it a Sin to aspire high . Shows their mindset.
  1. In 2015, CMD offered 6% SAB contribution in the open session of AIC of SNEA at Jaipur in the presence of all General Secretaries. AIGEOTA opposed it demanding full 12% and finally agreed for 3% in 2016-17. A big loss to all BRs. Who is against BRs, it is AIGETOA – In 2015 AIC of SNEA, CMD assured for 6 percent. SNEA was in power till 2020. In 5 years, they couldn’t implement that. This shows volumes about their seriousness on the issue. And also till today, SNEA is unable to tell us what percentage is yet to be achieved. They forgot this in 2007 when they got 30 percent fitment but forgot benefits of BRs ie Standard Pay Scales and 30 percent SAB..SNEA is the root cause of pendencies of such issues.
  1. SNEA demanded E2 and E3 scales from 01.01.2007 during 2nd PRC implementation. AIGETOA scuttled it initially by demanding E2 and E3 from 01.10.2000 itself and later on demanding cascading effect with revision of all other scales by forming a United Forum with some other Assns. Another big loss to all BRs recruited after 2007. Who is against BRs, It is AIGETOA. – The motive of SNEA is very clear after seeing the scales in CPSU proposal. They agreed for E1 in 2014 JTO RRs. Now they are showering Sermons…They were sleeping when other scales from 2nd PRC was being finalized..They became mum when initial two scales were kept Provisional.. AIGETOA is still in court and had kept the issue alive till date by obtaining stay on degradation of RRs and fighting in BSNL also. Can SNEA tell, how many forums they approached for this.
  1. If OTP transfer is so transparent, then why more than 200 requests are pending today or rejected? AIGEOTA should accept it as their failure in bringing transparency? – Again just a presumption..one month TA/TP as donation policy is obsolete now and executives are getting transfer without any hassles .. perhaps that is pinching SNEA. Proof of Transparency is that as on date there is waiting for hard tenure

Other achievements of AIGETOA will be contd tomorrow — We will wait for that ..We love the fairy tells of the Lie machine..

Formal Agenda Meeting of AIGETOA under chairmanship of Director(HR)

The 3rd formal agenda meeting of AIGETOA was held in physical mode on 09.02.2022 at Conference Hall, BSNL Corporate Office, New Delhi. The meeting was held under the chairmanship of the Director(HR) and participated by PGM Pers, Sr GM Estt, Sr GM SR, GM Admin, GM Restg, GM Rectt, Sr GM CA and other officers of BSNL Corporate Office New Delhi. The association side was represented by Shri Ravi Shil Verma AIP, Shri Wasi Ahmad GS, Shri Badri Kumar Mehta VP, Shri Yogendra Kumar AGS, Shri Sunil Gautam AGS and Shri Rajendra Singh Exe Member.

The meeting started with welcome address by Sr GM SR and opening remarks by the All India President and General Secretary, AIGETOA CHQ. The meeting lasted for more than 3.5 hrs and constructive discussion was held on each agenda items. The interest and aspirations of executives were put forth strongly in the meeting by the association and management came up with complete plan and several commitments on the range of issues discussed. Details will be issued through minutes of the meeting by the SR Cell. In the meantime, the highlights of the meeting are as stated below:

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Shameless show of their hatred towards set rules and procedures by proclaimed SENA

In another shameless show of their hatred towards set rules and procedures, the proclaimed SENA is saying that rotational transfer should not be implemented and in earlier letter/write up/meeting they want this gap to be filled up by promoted executives. Means they want that those who are stationed at same places since their birth in this department should not move, while those who are relatively much newer should only be moved out. This shows their prejudiced thought process.

AIGETOA as MA is not for any group but it will stand for transparent policies. The policies which were made in the organisation and were forgotten, we stand for reviving that. We stand for transparency and we will support transparency.

Already through OTP transfer policy, major forte of proclaimed SENA by which they used to terrorize new comers has been broken… Many more to come dear proclaimed SENA.. Many more to come… AIGETOA is determined to remove all the dust from the policies which you have thrown into ashes all these years. You don’t want transparency to prevail in the organisation but we are determined for it.

And which agitation you are talking about (Paper Agitation)… Oh Yes!!! We forgot. You are the postponement association. So in your continuing saga of postponed agitations, u will add this also.

And the most interesting part – You do not consider BSNL Recruits as their own..You are saying that all BSNL Recruits are AIGETOA Members. It should act as an eye opener for all the BSNL Recruits who still vouch for you.

And a small Fact check:

As on 1.8.2020 after 20 years of proclaimed SENA running the affairs in BSNL-

The stagnation in JTO Telecom Grade was 20 years….

The Stagnation in SDE cadre- 17 years (PS- Majority of their batch mates are covered leaving only competitive quota and some others in lurch)

The Stagnation in other streams like Civil, Electrical and Architecture – 20-30 years

As on 1.1.2022, after 17 months of AIGETOA being in majority

The stagnation in JTO Telecom Grade is now hardly 7-8 years except very few, which will be reduced further with our continuous efforts. We assure that very soon Stagnation in SDE cadre and other streams shall also be reduced much below.

The proclaimed SENA wasted precious years of all the Executives making them run after something which was never to come. And when CPSU could have come in 2007, SENA never allowed it to come.

Instead of accepting your guilt and accepting the responsibilities for all the mess which you have created in all these years, you are trying to teach AIGETOA a sermon, which actually is most needed for you.

Let us tell you again,

AIGETOA hai- Jhukega nahi.

We will ensure BSNL HR to be so smooth that executives themselves will never let you come in..

Transparent Transfer Policies, much awaited promotions, Rule 8 streamlining, Rule 9 cases transparency, Draconian clauses which you got put in JTO RRs and made the life of new recruits’ hell has already been resolved. Many more such achievements are to follow, just wait and watch.

AIGETOA is here for constructive work for the inclusive welfare of all executives instead of selective favour like you did… We rest assure you to keep on doing such good works and You continue with your rubbish utterances…

Meeting with Hon’ble MoC at Bhubaneswar, Odisha on 6th Feb 2022

Today on dated 6th February 2022, Team AIGETOA lead by Joint Secretary East Shri Ashok Acharya and CS AIGETOA Odisha Shri Dhiren Parida met Hon’ble MoC Shri Ashwini Vaishnav Ji and had brief discussion over the issues pertaining to BSNL and future prospects of executives of BSNL with respect to Pay, Promotion and Pension issues.

Hon’ble Minister happily shared that nearly 45000 cr budgetary allocation has been done for BSNL which is highest ever capital support extended to BSNL.

He told fortune of BSNL is vibrant here onwards and government will ensure its viability as well as long term survival of the company. He further assured us with regard to Pay, Pension and career related issues that everything will be settled one by one. He said he is aware of the issues raised by AIGETOA in various meetings with him and advised us to exercise a little bit of more patience. Hon’ble Minister assured that things are improving and each & every genuine issue shall be taken care of. He also directed his OSD to have detailed discussions with AIGETOA Team and arrange a full fledged agenda meeting with the association at the earliest suitable time at New Delhi.

We also invited him to grace the open session of our All India Conference as Chief Guest. Hon’ble Minister showed his positive consideration and asked us to coordinate with his OSD to ensure the time slot for the same.

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Together We Will Achieve Everything.

Sad demise of our colleague Shri Narendra Irwar, SDE Shajapur, MP

AIGETOA deeply mourns the sad demise of our colleague Shri Narendra Irwar, SDE Shajapur, Madhya Pradesh due to Cardiac arrest. He was just under 40 years of age and a very dedicated member of AIGETOA. He is survived by his wife and two small children.

We pray to almighty to bless the departed soul with eternal peace, and to provide his family with strength and courage to tide over the this irreparable loss.