Update on meeting of Team AIGETOA Punjab with Dir(CM) on 25.02.2023 :

Update on meeting of Team AIGETOA Punjab with Dir(CM) on 25.02.2023 :

Team AIGETOA Punjab Circle comprising Circle President Sh Vikas Gupta, Asst Circle Secretary Sh Narinder Kumar, Asst Circle Secretary Sh Vivek Asthana, District Secretary Nodal-Center Sh Ajit Singh and District President Nodal-Center Sh Anurag Parkash met Sh Sandeep Govil Director (CM) BSNL Board on his maiden visit to Chandigarh on 25.02.2023 to review Indigenous 4G launch.

Team welcomed him and congratulated him on assuming the high office of Director CM Team had brief discussion on various issues including 4G roll out, VAS bundling issue, increase in SAB contribution, Pay scale issues, Promotion in all cadres, Payment of GTI and GHI by BSNL. He gave patient hearing to our issues and assured to look into them. Team also submitted a memorandum to Director (CM).

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Updates on Meeting with CMD BSNL on 20.02.2023 :

AIGETOA Team consisting of All India Chairman Shri Ravi Shil Verma, All India President Shri Veerabhadra Rao, General Secretary Shri Pavan Akhand, AGS Shri Yogendra Kumar and Joint Secretary Shri R N Mishra met CMD BSNL and discussed upon execution of further promotions in all cadres including that of JTO to SDE, SDE to AGM, AO to CAO and AGM to DGM promotions. CMD BSNL told us that his emphasis is always on executing the maximum possible promotions and to streamline the process, he has already instructed the HR team to publish the DPC and LDCE Calendar. In MSRR he said, the board has already approved the RRs but he and his team are open to discussions on the ways to execute the promotions provided the same falls within the ambit of defined structure and rules. We emphasized that things are quite possible within the ambit of rules and need is only to consider the ways with a positive mindset. We sought formal time from him for discussions. He said he shall be extending the formal meeting to discuss upon the inputs of association.

We also had a brief discussion on the restructuring part where in we stated that need for revisiting the strength is there as two years period are over and staff is further required for executing BharatNet Project in view of BBNL Merger and for executing the 4G saturation Project. CMD BSNL was affirmative on staff requirements especially in case of 4G Saturation Project. On BharatNet, he said that there is limited scope as most of the Fiber is outsourced. We told that there is ample scope in BharatNet also even by considering the outsourcing norms and we shall be presenting that formally also. The formal meeting with CMD BSNL is likely to be held in first week of March 2023 in view of his preoccupied tight schedule in this and coming week.

On AO to CAO promotions and AGM to DGM promotions, CMD BSNL told that decision is expected from Hon’ble court in the next hearing and thereafter promotions can be immediately held. The JTO to SDE promotions shall also be held soon.

We also discussed upon management moving once again on MT Recruitment. We requested CMD BSNL to not to start the process again as already many cases are there and matter is pending at Hon’ble PCAT where even the notification is under challenge. We said that going again with MT Recruitment will create huge unrest in executives. CMD BSNL said that he is aware of the legal positions and the department will not do anything in contravention to any court orders. However he emphasized that he firmly stands for meritocracy in which we said that if BSNL is really for meritocracy, then they should restore the seniority of LDCE passed candidates belonging to list 12 and 13 and ensure their promotions. Similarly they should resolve the SDE Reversal issue who have qualified the LDCE 2007 for which they were held fully eligible for appearing in the exam and they qualified the exam with merit. We requested Hon’ble CMD BSNL to extend the due position and seniority to the LDCE passed executives including that of List 12 and 13 and 147 group.

Thereafter we met GM Pers also and discussed OTP cases, Orders for new Hard and soft tenure stations belonging to Uttarakhand, Karnataka and Gujarat, SDE Reversal issue etc. We also requested GM Pers to allow all the candidates falling in long stay 24-25 years to opt for OTP transfers on their choice stations and also to open the window for them whose applications are pending in the Hard Tenure Waiting List. We also requested to open a special window for the executives whose applications were rejected on the last day so that they can modify their choices in current OTP window itself. We also suggested GM Pers to allow executives to cancel or modify their OTP applications in the module itself which will save a lot of time for the candidates as well as administration.

GM Pers said that opening a special window is under consideration for the candidates whose applications were rejected on the last day. Orders for new Hard Tenure and Soft Tenure Stations of Uttarakhand, Karnataka, Gujarat and few other stations shall be issued within a week. He assured that suggestions of association with respect to modification of OTP choices or cancellation of his own request can also be considered.

We also discussed upon the developments in the SLP filed by BSNL in 147 cases. We told GM Pers to consider revising the Seniority in line with the Hon’ble High Court orders which are most likely to be upheld by the Hon’ble Supreme Court also. We said, that now is high time for the department to extend the genuine dues to LDCE passed candidates belonging to various batches by restoring their seniority in view of the recent developments at Hon’ble Supreme Court in 147 case. GM Pers said that matter shall be discussed with BSNL Senior Counsel.

Friends, every issue will be discussed with management and concerned HR groups with full focus.

We firmly assure that none of the issues will remain pending with our consistent persuasion at all levels. We are in touch with other authorities also to get resolution of our pending HR issues.

Updates on Meeting of Team AIGETOA with Director HR :

Team AIGETOA comprising of AIC Sh Ravishil Verma, GS Sh Pavan Akhand, AGS Sh Yogendra Kumar & AGS Sh Sunil Gautam met Dir HR on 19.01.2023 discussed issues related to OTP request transfers, modifications of Hard and Soft tenure stations for Uttarakhand and Karnataka Circles, left out JTO to SDE promotion, SDE reversal issue, left out all eligible SDE to AGM promotions, Syllabus and Pattern for examination.

On OTP request transfer, it was informed that Director HR has directed Personnel Section to process the request transfer cases and the cases shall be considered based on feasibility, merit of the requests and administrative requirements. There was a reluctance on the part of Director HR with respect to consideration of the request cases from Karnataka Circle. However, after our insistence, he agreed to consider cases from Karnataka also. It is expected that orders may be issued within one week.

It was discussed that all AGMs (those who already applied OTP request) who has been promoted in recent SDE to AGM will have to apply fresh OTP in AGM cadre by cancelling the old OTP request. Further, we requested for consideration of request transfer cases of SDEs wanting the transfer to Hard Tenure stations against the waiting list of JTOs wanting to move out from these circles through Rule 8. This way both the waiting list for Rule 8 as well as waiting list for SDEs for hard tenure will be cleared.

Further, we also requested to consider seeking volunteers for posting at deficit circles from all the cadres so that executives from long stay list can accommodate themselves against such circles voluntarily. Director HR assured to consider our suggestions in this regard.

On the issue of declaration of Hard Tenure Stations of Uttarakhand, Gujarat and Soft tenure Stations for Karnataka and few other places, It was informed that matter is under active consideration, discussions have taken place and order is expected in the last week of January 2023.

On Left out JTO to SDE, way out to promote 104 executive is under consideration and they will be promoted soon.

On SDE Reversal issue, it was informed by Director HR that issue is under active consideration. Association demanded to immediately settle the issue without any further delay. Director HR appreciated our concern.

On PWD issue, clarity will be there once Hon’ble PCAT decides the issue. However, the seats have been kept reserved for them.

Promotion for left out SDE to AGM all eligible: The issue was once again discussed at length and we shared once again the complete road map to achieve the objective. We shared the vacancy calculations and necessary steps, how stagnation criteria can be inserted by discussion with all stake holders and how objections of other stake holders can be taken care of was also discussed. We also highlighted that the Manpower Plan devised for BharatNet project is not as per the operational norms approved by BSNL Board and the same needs a correction with more number of SDEs, AGMs and DGMs post be deployed for the purpose. Further we emphasized that there is need for exclusive manpower deployment for 4G saturation project also. By this way enough posts can be created and there shall be a smooth path for not only these executives who are currently eligible but it will create a path for future SDEs also. Though, Director HR was positive on the issue but any final decision shall be taken only after discussions with CMD BSNL. We have shared the agenda points on this issue to Hon’ble CMD BSNL and his time slot for the aforesaid discussion is awaited.

We also discussed on the Syllabus and Pattern for examination. We suggested that the syllabus should be designed in such a way that it assesses the executives based on their competence, management skills and leadership qualities instead of testing the bookish knowledge. Director HR appreciated our view and told that committee formed for the purpose shall take the inputs from AIGETOA before moving forward on anything.

Updates of Meeting with Members of MS RR Committee headed by Sh R K Goyal CGM CN-TX on 05.12.2022

Meeting of Team AIGETOA comprising of GS (I/C) Shri Pavan Akhand, AIC Shri Ravi Shil Verma, Convenor Shri P N Sharma, FS Shri B K Mehta and AGS Shri Yogendra Kumar was held with Members of the MS RR committee headed by Sh R K Goyal CGM CN-TX held on 05-12-2022 for informal discussion on various clauses of draft MS RR .Team AIGETOA put all the concerns of members as suggested by Internal MS RR committee of AIGETOA according to findings given by internal committee members vide online meeting held on 04-12-2022 . The Team categorically emphasized that AIGETOA first wants to know the vision of management behind drafting these RRs and what level they are envisaging for a fresh entry level executives to reach to while framing this draft. We categorically told that without knowing Managements version, We are not in a position to submit any draft. Thereafter management side explained their vision after which the discussion and deliberations started.

Following Major points were highlighted by Team AIGETOA to MS RR draft committee :

  • We clearly emphasized that there is Lack of overall career progression path and HR vision is missing in the draft RR . While it’s a good thing that management is moving towards meritocracy but at the same time it can be seen that the residency period at higher levels have been raised too high which will stop the career progression at higher levels.
  • Minimum assured career progression for all executives as well as opportunity to reach at apex position by meritorious candidate is totally missing in the draft RR. There should be selection by merit at all levels and mere APAR scores should not be the only criteria to judge the suitability of executives at level beyond DGM. Merit has to be the criteria for selection at all levels.
  • Stagnation clause must be there at AGM/CAO level in the MS RR . Without stagnation clause and sufficient provision to the promotional avenues of existing executives, no MSRR is acceptable to AIGETOA.
  • External Recruitment mentioned in MS RR ( MT & DR DGM) should be abolished and AIGETOA will never accept any lateral recruitment at levels beyond JTO/JAO.
  • Existing Executives who have cleared the residency period should be promoted before execution of new RR .
  • Eligibility criteria for the AGM LICE to be extended for JTO + SDE total service length completed in line with DGM LICE and the minimum residency criteria may be made more liberal for fast track mode.
  • Fast track path vacancies should be Separately created. Already worked out vacancies should be used only for DPC channel.
  • MSRR must ensure with 5 EPP promotions ( E2-E7) intact with increment on same scale working too as in old MS RR.
  • Stringent APAR benchmarks proposed in draft has been pointed out as well as clubbing IPMS to APAR should be avoided incase APAR getting linked with EPP.
  • Weightage of number of completed service year’s to be given in fast track.
  • Foot note 2 must be implemented in right spirit.
  • 3 months relaxation can be given for minimum years service completion on cut-off date.
  • Diploma + 10 years service to be taken equivalent to engineering degree.
  • All mode of recruitment to be completed in a single calendar year to avoid seniority clashes due to administrative reasons.
  • Total seats must be increased on one time basis in all cadres to give sufficient career hierarchy to the executives at all levels and to prevent them from stagnating in the cadre for long.
  • Weightage for higher qualification must be given.

MS RR Committee Chairman Sh. R K Goyal noted all points and told us to submit the inputs as soon as possible and he assured to discuss the inputs thereafter in the committee and to be incorporated up to best possible extent . We told that since this is the first deliberation with the committee, we shall be conveying the management view points to the various stake holders, take their feedback and thereafter we will submit our feedback and for that we need some more time. Committee requested us to expedite the formal inputs. AIGETOA shall be discussing the points of the deliberations with the internal committee formed for the purpose and after detailed deliberations, the draft by AIGETOA shall be submitted probably by next week

Apart from the above points, following points were also raised to resolve before new MS RR :

1] SDE Reversal Case.

2] Promotion for all eligible SDEs to AGM & AO to CAO.

3] Promotion of left out JTOs to SDEs.

4] Promotion to PWD candidates in line with the recently issues DoP&T guidelines.

Meeting with GM Pers on settlement of SDE 2007 reversal issue and status on promotions in AGM grade for PWD candidates

Meeting of Team AIGETOA consisting of Dy GS Shri Pavan Akhand, AIC Shri Ravi Shil Verma, AGSs Shri Sunil Gautam and Shri Yogendra Kumar with GM Pers on settlement of SDE 2007 reversal issue and status on promotions in AGM grade for PWD candidates:

SDE Reversal Case :

Team AIGETOA reminded GM Pers about the discussion with Director HR wherein Hon’ble Director HR has categorically directed to settle the SDE 2007 reversal issue without any further delay. We firmly told GM Pers that he should realize the agony of the affected candidates and should not delay the action anymore. We requested GM Pers to call for committee Meeting and resolve the issue by next week as these candidates have already faced enough hardships and this mental torture and agony must end now. GM Pers assured that he will do the needful and speak to Hon’ble Director HR in this regard. We also informed GM Pers that all Candidates are open to out of court settlement and legal tangles in various courts will not be any issue provided management takes firm initiative to end the dispute and reinstate the Seniority of these candidates. As far as the current status is concerned, their names were in DPC and seats are kept reserved for them. Team AIGETOA shall be taking this matter further with Director HR early next week.

Promotion in PWD Quota

With regard to promotions in PWD quota, it was informed that action for DPC has been taken in line with the Directions of Hon’ble PCAT and further necessary action shall be taken after getting directions from Hon’ble PCAT in next hearing.

Promotion for all eligible SDEs to AGM & AO to CAO

Earlier with CMD BSNL and Director HR, Team AIGETOA raised the issue of promotions for the all eligible SDEs to AGM grade, AO to CAO promotions and also the left out JTOs for the SDE promotions. It was informed that management remains open to the promotion within the ambit of rules and structure. We told Hon’ble CMD that within the ambit of current structure only, the promotions of all eligible SDEs are possible, the need is to recognise the injustice met out to competitive quota candidates belonging to list 12 and 13. There are enough precedence in the organization both recently as well as earlier which can ensure much awaited promotion to all eligible SDEs to AGM grade.

Promotion of left out JTOs to SDEs

Similarly now it’s high time that promotion to the remaining left out JTOs to SDE Cadre is executed immediately to avoid perpetual losses in their careers. We also requested CMD BSNL for AO to CAO promotions and informed him that now with both sides willing to sort out the issue with consensus amicably, management must not miss the opportunity to ensure Promotions in AO to CAO cadre.

While meeting Director HR also, we raised the same issues. Director HR assured to take our submissions into consideration.

Friends, A lot of apprehensions are going on in the minds of all executives. We firmly and non ambiguously affirm that we will ensure the promotions to all eligible before moving on to the amended MS RRs.

We would like to convey that while we don’t hesitate in applauding the good efforts of our management, in the same manner we don’t hesitate in standing tough and tall against the actions which are contrary to the interests of the fraternity as well as organisation.

We request one and all to remain united and lend their firm support in our endeavors to ensure the best for our executive cadre.

Together we will achieve everything.