Details of Meeting of AIGETOA CHQ Team with DIRECTOR HR:

Details of Meeting of AIGETOA CHQ Team with DIRECTOR HR:

As per earlier schedule, CHQ Team of AIGETOA consisting of AIP CHQ Shri Ravi Shil Verma , VP CHQ Shri B K Mehta and OS Shri Vivek Kumar Singh met Director HR on 4th Sept 2020. Director HR Shri Arvind Vadnerkar, Shri Arun Kumar PGM Pers, Shri A M Gupta, Sr GM SR and Shri Manish Kumar GM restructuring was present from Management Side. Following issues were discussed:

JTO to SDE DPC

It was informed by PGM Pers that they are waiting for the judgement copy. After receipt of Judgement copy, final opinion of the advocate shall be taken and action shall be initiated accordingly. We sought clarification that whether there is any deviation from process decided earlier. It was told that there is no such deviation from earlier stand and since judgement has been pronounced, management just wants to be doubly sure of process adopted by them. We extended our thanks and requested PGM Pers to ensure that Promotions from JTO to SDE happens within the month of September itself and process for next DPC and LDCE is notified soon thereafter. We are hoping that management will keep it’s words for issuance of promotions within this one month.

SDE Reversal:

It was informed that complete data has been compiled and the documents have been shared with all committee members. The committee was scheduled to meet in the last week itself but due to sudden demise of close relative of one of the committee members, meeting has been postponed and shall be held once he rejoins. We request all our affected friends to exercise a little bit of more patience. Some times things go beyond our hands. This is one of the same situation. It is difficult for the committee to give report in the absence of one of the committee members. We are expecting this issue to be resolved very soon.

Publication of Seniority List for the VY 2007-08 onwards:

We requested for immediate publication of the subsequent lists. It was informed that legal opinion has been sought from the Senior advocate dealing with the case earlier. Any further action shall be taken only after receipt of legal opinion. We categorically told that VY based Seniority is our right and any deviation from this will lead to injustice for all affected SDEs and shall not be in line with what RR states. Management assured that your right will be protected and justice will prevail .We expect a positive outcome on this issue soon.

BA Merger and Restructuring:

We highlighted discrepancies of the proposed structure especially with respect to Geographical Distance and Positional norms in various grades. We shared the feedback received from various circle members and OBs with management. We also shared our strong opposition on any reduction in the number promotional posts and categorically stated that any reduction in the number of posts beyond stipulated guidelines shall be strongly opposed. We clearly told that management should not consider existing executives as a liability and there should not be any dent to the promotional aspects of executives in the name of reorganisation. We requested for consideration of all pending promotions in all cadres before restructuring. It was decided a detailed meeting shall be further called on the issue to finalise the things in a manner which is beneficial for all. On the issue of shifting of BBNW HQs to Bangaluru, it was informed that the decision has been taken in view that major works of both NCNGN and BBNW are at Bangaluru. We said that such type of change of headquarters should be avoided. However it was assured that no executive will be disturbed from his present place of posting. We once again requested management to reconsider this decision.

The detailed agenda meeting to discuss the issues submitted by association shall be held on 16th Sept 2020.

Dear friends

Our team is on job. There are many who will try to misguide, deviate and befool all but we request all of you to exercise faith and patience and not to get the deterred by unnecessary utterances of other persons or groups. We are moving ahead with focused approach and if we face something which is setback or contrary to our interests, shall be informed to one and all with full transparency so that together we all can fight against any such injustices.

Meeting of Team AIGETOA with Director HR:

Today, AIGETOA CHQ team met Director HR as per the pre-decided schedule. The issues discussed were JTO to SDE DPC, Preparation of Seniority list 2007-08 onwards, SDE reversal 2007 issue, Initial Discussion on Pay Scale and Pay Loss issue. We presented our submissions to Director HR. We clarified the confusion created by office bearers of other association with respect to ERNAKULLAM Judgement. We also clarified why Vacancy Year Based Seniority is Justified and the same should be published for all future lists, We also discussed upon the Pay Scale issue and loss in Pay faced by our younger executives. We also presented the shortcomings of BA concept briefly. The meeting shall be continued on 4th September when the detailed deliberation will take place with respect to promotions, Seniority and Restructuring. Pay Scale and Pay Loss issue shall be discussed in AGENDA meeting which is scheduled to be held in next 10 days.

Friends !!! CHQ team is in consistent queries from members and we request them all to exercise faith and patience. TEAM AIGETOA is on Job and slowly and steadily we shall be taking up all the issues mentioned in our vision document. We know that other association specially one particular association is hell bent on derailing everything and creating confusion instead of cooperating with us for resolution of issues. But we request all to not to to get diverted from their dirty gimmicks. AIGETOA is committed to go to any extent for resolution of issues and we will not act as mere mouth piece and news broadcasters and will take all steps to ensure resolution of issues.

Just remember : TOGETHER We Will.

Updates on Meeting with PGM (Pers)

AIGETOA CHQ team yesterday met PGM Pers and had discussions on the issues of JTO To SDE DPC, SDE reversion case, Preparation of further seniority list in SDE cadres and consideration of request transfers which were put on hold before MV. It was apprised that things are in pipeline and management is working on the issues. With regard to SDE reversion cases, final meeting of the committee is scheduled to happen next week.

There is a strong objection from other associations on method of seniority fixation in list 9 which shows their biased attitude towards competitive quota people. However AIGETOA is firm in its opinion that Vacancy Year seniority should prevail and the list has been correctly prepared to some extent and in fact provision of Rota should also be inserted in the list. The work in JTO to SDE DPC will also be initiated soon. The request transfers shall be processed immediately.

Details of Meeting of Team AIGETOA with CMD BSNL and other Functional Directors of Board:

Team AIGETOA met CMD BSNL and extended its gratitude for conduction of MV process in free and fair manner. The team highlighted the pending issues in brief and sought speedy resolution of issues. We also informed CMD BSNL about the sad demise of JTO STR Shri Vengadeswaran R due to covid. We requested CMD BSNL that its high time that BSNL should immediately arrange for the cashless indoor treatment facility as the BSNL employees and its family are totally at risk. We also requested CMD BSNL to explore coverage of medical insurance scheme to all employees now. CMD BSNL was positive to the issue and he said management shall be exploring the options to provide medicalim coverage for all employees. He sought our cooperation on the matter. CMD BSNL emphasised that management is aware about the pending issues and said that all steps shall be taken to resolve them. He also emphised that he expects AIGETOA also to move ahead with a pragmatic approach. We assured that AIGETOA believes in a constructive approach and we will lend support to all steps taken by management for betterment of BSNL and its executives but at the same time we also expect a similar treatment from management on the issues of executives and let us all work together to make BSNL a better place for its executives. We also discussed the issues related to 4G implementation and issuance of Bonds.

The Team also met Director (HR) Shri Arvind Vadnerkar and extended its thanks and gratitude for conducting the MV process in fair and time bound manner as demanded by AIGETOA. We als requested Director HR for directing his team for immediate settlement of issues which have been pending for so long specially those related to Pay Loss and Promotions. We also requested for immediate directions to HR unit for JTO to SDE DPC,  reinstating the reverted SDEs back as SDEs and issuance of seniority list Vacancy Years 2007-8, 2008-9, 2009-10. Director HR extended his good wishes and assured for a positive action on the issues without any delay. We shall be shortly asking for a detailed agenda meetig with respect to the pending issues.

The team then Met Director (Finance ) Shri S.K. Gupta and Director Enterprise Shri V Ramesh. Both the Directors extended their good wishes for AIGETOA and hoped that association will move ahead with a constructive approach. They assured their support on genuine issues of BSNL Executives.

Thereafter team Met Director (CFA) Shri Vivek Banzal and Director (CM) Shri S. K. Mishra and both the dignitaries extended his good wishes to Team AIGETOA.

The team then met DGM (SR) and PGM (Pers) and apprised them about the result of the 2nd Membership Verification and also discussed the issue of JTO to SDE DPC, SDE Reversal issue and Issuance of seniority list of VY 2007-08, 2008-09 and 2009-10.

It is further surprising to learn that SNEA has submitted its objection on publication of list-9 for Vacancy Year basis and has in fact are trying to stop the publication of list of subsequent vacancy years. From their update on website, it is felt that they are still into MV mode and instead of trying to settle the issues; they are again into blame games and misleading campaigns. While AIGETOA has whole heartedly welcomed them with open arms for lending support on issues, they are still trying to prove their supremacy. We once again request them to come to ground, realise the truth and lend their construtive support to AIGETOA for resolution of all issues. They should understand that executives are a learned lot and it is very difficult to befool them always.

With regard to the verdict on the review petition filed by BSNL and SNEA & AIBSNLEA activists, it is learnt that Court has dismissed the Review Petition and has stated that the judgement is clear in its words and nothing needs to be changed. Hon’ble Court has stated that they have only given verdict on Inter-Se- Seniority and not on Intra Seniority which was never in challenge. Hence there was no ambiguity and confusion on the part of Training Centre Marks Seniority and SNEA is simply trying to create confusion in HR units just to derail the JTO to SDE DPC which is well in sight now after the win of AIGETOA in MV process.   It will be pertinent to mention that Hon’ble Court has directed for prepartion of list as per the existing rules and rules of rota quota and there is no ambiguity as such on training marks seniority. We will upload more details once the order copy is received.

AIGETOA has categorically made it clear again and again that seniority should be fixed in vacancy year basis by following the rules of ROTA-QUOTA in both JTO and SDE grades. It is the SNEA and AIBSNLEA, who demand opposite and keep varrying stands which is nothing but double speak on issues.

We once again request SNEA and their leaders to come the terms of reality and work commonly for the cause of executives instead of indulging into blame games and confusion tactics. The executives of BSNL have suffered a lot in all these years as well as MV has completed, so now let’s concentrate towards welfare of the executives instead of accusation. We only hope that better sense will prevail on them.