Updates on AIGETOA Meeting held with Pers (Estt)

Updates on AIGETOA Meeting held with Pers (Estt)

A Meeting of Team AIGETOA was held with PGM(Estt) Shri Saurabh Tyagi on pursuance at DOT WRT E2 E3, Rule 8 cases in various circles, clarification about Rule 8 for GATE JTOs, consideration of special Rule 9 cases, creation of additional vacancies in JE to JTO(T) LICE, Amendment in JTO RR, Declaration of JTO LICE result of Punjab circle for VY 2014-15 onwards. The detailed discussion was held with the Team AIGETOA comprising of Shri Ravi Shil Verma Chairman, Shri Vivek Kumar Singh AGS, Shri Sunil Gautam AGS, Shri Yoginder Kumar AGS & Shri Chander Singh Negi CS HP.

Pursuance with DoT on approval of E2 & E3 for JTO/JAO and SDE/AO equivalent:

As committed at various occasions, PGM(Estt) once again assured us that another reminder letter at the level of Director HR to DoT for approval of E2 to JTO/JAO and E3 to SDE/AO is under process and shall be sent in this week itself. We apprised that BSNL should not lag in strong pursuance with DoT at all whole association is also precipitating the same through office of MoC as well as with pursuance through various MPs and Members of the Parliamentary Committee. We also told that AIGETOA court case is slated for final hearing in Chandigarh in second week of May 2022 and we hope for solid breakthrough there also. It was agreed that through mutual faith and joint pursuance at various platforms, we will be able to clinch this issue in favour of Executives very soon.

Non consideration of Rule 8 cases:

Team AIGETOA registered it’s strong displeasure on non-consideration of Rule 8 cases in various circles like HP & J&K etc. despite clear guidelines from BSNL CO through letter to clear all pending Rule 8 cases at least those who are willing to go from Surplus Circle to deficit Circle. CS HP was also present to discuss about his circle where strength of JTOs are surplus but still CGM HP is reluctant to consider Rule 8 cases. Near about 18 Rule 8 cases are pending in circle which are being overlooked even for deficit circles like Bihar. We requested PGM(Estt) to send another reminder letter on this serious issue and also direct circles to consider maximum possible cases and provide relief for those who have already worked in the circle for 13-15 years. He assured to issue another reminder letter on Rule 8 consider specially for surplus circle and also assured that he will personally speak to CGMs of HP, J&K and other circles.

Clarification of Rule-8 for GATE JTOs:

This issue was discussed on last visit of GS in a meeting with PGM(Estt) on dated 19.04.2022 and this time also PGM(Estt) once again informed that clarification was already issued on that matter and copy of that clarification was once again shared with us.

Creation of additional vacancies for JE to JTO(T) LICE issued recently:

We demanded to increase the LICE Quota vacancies for examination of JE to JTO(T) promotion. As shown in JTO(T) LICE notification only 18 circle have vacancies and aspirants of these 18 circle can only sit in the exam. Rest other circles and their aspirants are forced to sit outside because of non availability of vacancies. We emphasized that before restructuring, there were vacancies and hence the chance of the JEs present in various circles should not be killed at all. We told to once again consider the method adopted by Pers section and notify the exam for vacancy years before restructuring exercise was done. PGM(Estt) was sympathetic to the concerns raised and assured to explore the options within the possible framework of legal boundaries.

Consideration of pending Rule 9 cases:

After issuing amendment in Transfer Policy and incorporating stringent conditions for Rule 9 cases, some deserving cases of Executives who are full dependent on others even to manage their day to day activities must be considered. We strongly expressed that He group must consider these type of some most needy Rule 9 cases. Case by case discussion was held specially the cases from KTK & Kerala circle and it was told to reconsider their applications for Rule-9 on humanitarian grounds. PGM (Estt) assured to consider after going through the papers once again.

Amendment in JTO(T) RR:

It was informed to us the JTO(T) RR is also under modification and draft proposal will be shared soon with all stake holders for their comments. We once again emphasized that the JTO(T) RR pay scale should be E2 in place of E1 as per approval of BSNL Board and the same needs to be incorporated in the new RRs to avoid any unrest from executives and also to facilitate smooth approval by DoT on the same.

Declaration of JTO(T) LICE result of Punjab Circle from VY 2014-15:

As we are aware that Punjab JTO(T) LICE result was struck due to various court cases and result was not declared from Vacancy Year 2014-15 onward. We request PGM(Estt) to clear this hurdle for smooth career progression of Punjab Circle JEs. It was also informed to them since DoT&T guidelines are issued as per SC judgement and hence related cases may be expedited as early as possible. He assured for necessary direction to Punjab Circle in this regard.

AIGETOA Writes to CMD BSNL for Immediate Conduction of DPC for SDE (T) to AGM Promotions

GS AIGETOA writes to CMD BSNL for Immediate conduction of DPC for SDE (T) to AGM promotions to the SDEs stagnating in the cadre despite completing their requisite residency in the SDE grade much earlier and making provisions to extend justice to the LDCE qualified SDEs of List 12 and 13 belonging to Vacancy Years 2006-07, 2007-08 and 2008-09 to ensure that they are promoted together at par with the SDEs of the corresponding vacancy years belonging to SCF quota.

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Nomination of Shri Ravi Shil Verma as Chairman AIGETOA in the special GBM held on 15th
April’2022 through online mode

Dear Friends,

New CHQ Team of AIGETOA has been endorsed by the BSNL Corporate Office for all purpose in line with the election held at Bhopal on 14th March 2022. This Team is a mix of previous body OBs and new entrants i.e. a combination of experience and youthfulness under the leadership of our vibrant General Secretary Shri Wasi Ahmad and Young All India President Shri Veerbhadra Rao. In a Special General Body Meeting held though online on 15.04.2022, our most respected and tallest leader Shri Ravi Shil Verma has also been unanimously nominated as Chairman of AIGETOA. The new team has swung into action immediately towards various outstanding issues of the Executives as well as the policies for revival and survival of BSNL. In recent times, the Team has held several meetings at different level of authorities in BSNL, DoT and DoPT. At the same time, CHQ has attended various meetings of the combined platform of AUAB as well as our ally association SEWA also. In between, OBs of New CHQ has also succeeded in meeting various Hon’ble Members of Parliament as well as Member of Parliamentary Committee on Communication and Information Technology, Govt of India to further precipitate and resolve our issues. We have set our agenda very clearly to ensure resolution of long pending issue of Standard Pay Scale E2-E3, Pay loss issue of JTO/JAO, Issuance of long awaited promotion in AGM/CAO/EE, SDE/AO/AE and other grades and settlement of Reversal Issue, full 30 percent Superannuation Benefits (SAB), Creation of mechanism for the Fast Track Promotion Channel through MS RR, Cashless MRS facility and Group Health Insurance Policy by BSNL, Revision of Allowances, Restoration of LTC, 3rd PRC in BSNL etc.

Despite getting the Majority Representative Association tag in the most difficult phase of BSNL as well as mankind, we have been able to clinch long pending issue of promotions from JTO to SDE and other equivalent grades, the transparent and unform transfer Policy, clinching maximum posts in the middle level management despite surrender of almost 14000 post due to VRS, streamling and clearing of Rule 8 cases, incorporation of stagnation criteria through personal upgradation in RRs, incorporation of fast track promotion policy in various RRs, notification for LICE for JE to JTO, deposit of arrears of SAB fund, Up to date deposit of EPF contribution, timely payment of medical bills, maintenance expenditure are to name a few. Today we have created an echo system where no executive is dependent upon anybody for processing of his Requests down to the SSA level. In the most critical period of Covid, we extended a health policy at such rates that many thousand employees of BSNL were able to have a health cover and they got the benefits of almost 20 crores as claim settlement, we have been able to get created BSNL Covid Fund for the families of all our brothers who left us due to Covid. The achievements are many but at the same time there has been certain setbacks also for which we are fighting hard and will ensure that justice prevails for all. We will claim our successes and at the same time we will not hesitate in accepting our failures also and will strive to overcome those failures and convert them to success. Executives voted for change and change is visible.

This changed scenario was not possible without the ardent support of the OBs, Members and Executive Fraternity. Still some association play the game of number and try to deceive management on various occasions though SAP Count. Now, a time has come to give a full support in terms of numbers also to cement the position of the association for a harder and efficient way for resolution of issues. So, we request all of you to please come forward and extend a hand of support for a better future in BSNL. Following is the Team of AIGETOA CHQ for your service at all time.

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Updates of AIGETOA CHQ Meeting with PGM Pers held on 29.04.2022

Shri Ravi Shil Verma Chairman AIGETOA and Shri Vivek Kumar Singh AGS-II AIGETOA met PGM Pers today on 29.04.2022 and discussed following issues.

Promotion in from SDE(T) to AGM Grade :

We enquired about the status of promotion and it’s progress. It was informed that Pers team is on Job and are under discussion with various stakeholders to arrive at a firm consensus. The legal position as on date has been explained to each of them and now they all have to take a holistic approach so that the process of promotion can become smooth and hassle-free. It was highlighted that management is determined to extend the promotion in line with directions of GoI and will take all necessary steps to execute the same at the earliest. We told that under any circumstances, there should not be any delay. While we assured that association will also take all necessary steps to develop a consensus but at the same time association will not accept any delay by making this non consensus as an excuse. We said it should be the duty of management to follow the judicious path and justice should prevail for all.

We also highlighted about lack of proper monitoring wrt completion of APAR data capturing in ERP. PGM Pers assured that his team is on Job and all necessary monitoring is being done to complete the exercise at the earliest.

We also categorically stated that all the vacancies upto 1.1.2022 should be filled up and as being done in the case of SDE Promotions, vacancy arising out of the look after DGM post should also be taken into account. We also requested that expeditious action of framing of MSRRs should be done where stagnation criteria and fast track promotion policy should find its due place. PGM Pers assured that whatever that has been assured to AIGETOA, shall be taken care of and there is need to have patience, ultimately interest of everyone shall be ensured. We also affirmed that all these executives have faced enough in their years as JTO and SDE due to various reasons and discrepancies and now there should not be any injustice to anyone. While we also believe in continuity but at the end no body should be left out without justice and it’s the duty of the association and management to ensure justice for all.

OTP Transfers :

We requested for issuance of OTP transfers as it is already delayed. PGM Pers assured that today it will be issued. We requested for consideration of all genuine cases. PGM Pers assured that all cases which satisfy the criteria shall be taken care of and if any one is inadvertently left that can be taken care of subsequently.

Promotion to left out JTOs of 2008 batch and status of modified MS RRs :

It was informed that all left out JTOs of 2008 will be covered soon.

The issuance of modified SDE RRs shall also be done soon. It was highlighted that apprehensions raised by AIGETOA on the RRs shall be taken care of while issuance of modified SDE RRs.

Reversal Issue :

We expressed our resentment that April 30 is almost over and even file has not been put up yet. PGM Pers told that he will direct the section to process the file in next few days. We once again told that as assured at various platforms, it should be resolved in positive direction.

Status of Process of Transfer of long Stay list circulated in February 2022 :

We expressed that after issuance of list and taking of options from executives, any unnecessary hold up leads to apprehensions and unfair practices down the line for encashment of hardships by some mischievous elements. Hence Department should take an immediate and firm decision on this aspect and Juniors should not be made Pray for such indecisive actions. PGM Pers assured that he will discuss the apprehensions raised by Association with Director and CMD BSNL and assured that there will not be any injustice.

Friends, Team AIGETOA is on job and we assure that at the end Justice will prevail and association will go to any extent to ensure this. All stakeholders belonging to different groups should have patience and faith in the team.

Updates of Team AIGETOA Meeting with Director HR on 28.04.2022

Team AIGETOA held a detailed meeting with Director HR on various issues on 28.04.2022, which was attended by Shri Wasi Ahmad GS, Shri Vivek Kumar Singh AGS, Shri Sunil Gautam AGS, Shri Yogendra Kumar AGS.

Following issues were discussed in details:

Standard Pay Scale E2-E3:

The issue was raised once again before the Director HR reminding the losses being suffered by young executives due to three different basics i.e. 16400, 19020, 22820 provided by BSNL in same Grade of JTO/JAO. Earlier the management was taking the matter seriously with the DoT in line of recommendation of the BSNL Board to replace the Scale of JTO/JAO equivalent with E2 and SDE/AO equivalent with E3 and it is workable also as no functional grade is associated with E3 Scale. But presently it is not pursued vigorously despite of the long pendency of the issue. This has also become one of reasons that our newly recruited GATE JTOs and JAOs are deserting the department and large number of them already left. He apprised that BSNL is regularly taking up the matter with DoT and we again sending reminder letter in this regard and it will be further taken up with appropriate authority.

SDE to AGM and AO to CAO Promotion:

On AGM Promotion, association submitted figure and details to the Dir HR and apprised that how 2006-07 and subsequent VY LDCE qualified SDEs have been placed en-block junior to 2008-09 SQ SDEs, inflicting grave injustice to these executives. These SDEs are victims of the wrong interpretations of the legal verdict by the management and delay in holding of the LDCE by the department. We reminded that management always speaks about the meritocracy but here the merit has been pushed aside. Hence, it’s a high time to extend justice to them by doing one time measure to promote all SDEs, who have completed more than eight years of the service in the grade, to render justice to these LDCE qualified Executives. We also apprised that various new projects are coming including BBNL operation, which gives ample scope to accommodate all SDEs for Promotion.

We requested the director HR for rigorous follow up from Corporate Office to complete the updating and certification of APAR uploading works which has failed many deadlines. The matter should be taken exclusively with respective CGM and at least one DGM rank officer should be deputed to take daily basis report from the Circle. A direction from your goodself should also go through message to all CGMs to complete the task immediately else the process may get delayed abnormally. He assured to take necessary action in this regard after speaking to the PGM Pers.

We also taken up the matter of CAO Promotion and apprised that only due to 16 days, these young and professionally qualified AOs are not meeting the benchmark to get promoted to CAO despite abundance of vacancies and acute shortage of officers in BSNL. As on date hardly 60 CAOs are working across the BSNL and hence management should think over our demand to give the required 16 days relaxation and carry forward their process of Promotion also simultaneously.

Settlement of SDE Reversal Issue:

On the SDE reversal issue, we reminded Dir HR that reversal issue has still not been settled as promised to get it done latest by April 2022. One more deadline for resolution of the issue has from the management side and these executives are under tremendous pain due to the cold shouldering on a genuine and assured settlement. Dir HR assured to speak to PGM Pers once he returns back from the leave. We requested to settle the issue immediately and ensured that in case of any delay they have to be in the list of promotion. The Director HR assured to do the needful.

Left out DPC of 2K8 JTOs, LDCE for JTO to SDE and LICE for JE to JTO:

The issue of left out JTOs of 2008 batch for DPC and holding of LDCE for JTO to SDE and LICE for JE to JTO were also discussed in detailed. The matter of shortfall of vacancies in the recently notified LICE for JE to JTO was also taken up with the Director HR. It was apprised that these qualified JEs , who are taking lot of load I field units must be provided the opportunity to upgrade themselves to JTOs through proper vacancies in LKICE in all Circles. This matter was also taken earlier in the CMD’s meeting on 26th April. Director Hr apprised that the matter is already is in his knowledge as the same was raised on 26th meeting also and they are working over it.

MS RR Draft discussion:

We demanded to initiate discussion on the MS RR draft and the proposal must contain stagnation criteria in the SDE to AGM Grade as eight years. This is the only way forward to deal with the promotional avenues to those executives not covere3d through DPC in the future in view of young age groups of the Executives existing gin BSNL. Director assured to call the association once formal discussion on the RR starts.

Posting of CGM at Orissa, Telangana and other vacant Circles:

This matter was once again raised with the Director HR emphasizing the importance of regular Circle Head and Orissa being one of the best Circle of East Zone is waiting for a regular CGM since more than four months. Earlier PGM Bhubaneswar was looking over the charge has also superannuated on 30th April and hence immediately one CGM should be posted. Similarly other Circles should also be posted regular Circle Head to intact keep the interest of the department at top.

Tenure Places of Uttrakhand and Karnataka Circles:

Scarcity of staff in Uttarakhand and Karnataka Circles are persisting since long time but no solution is coming from the management side. These Circles have suggested some measures but they are also awaiting decision from the BSNL HQ. We requested that the suggestion of Uttarakhand Circle to convert some soft tenure places like Almohra, Srinagar, New Tehri etc to hard tenure may help in getting the executives as a hard tenure places like other Circle Circles. Similarly, the non popular stations of Karnataka like areas of Bidar, Chickmagalur, Shimoga, Karwa, Madikeri etc should be converted into soft tenure to attract the Executives from adjoin states of Andhra Pradesh, Telangana etc to join the Circle to break their Circle Tenure with facilities and fulfill the requirement of the Karnataka Circle. The Director HR assured to discuss the matter and see the way forward on the matter.

GM Solan Complain to the Director HR:

The matte of GM Solan, Himachal Pradesh Shri Jaspal Singh was raised with the Director HR. We apprised that the GM Solan is creating serious unharmonious situation in the BA through his autocratic actions as well as engaged in local politics instead of concentrating development of the BA. He has issued more than 58 transfer order in just one year spreading throughout the period, which itself shows his priority. These order also used as pick and chose manner flouting all norms and conditions. We submitted all documents to the Director HR and demanded his transfer from the station before the situation becomes more vicious and turbulent. Hon’ble Director HR enquired some points and assured to look into the matter.